{"id":1555,"date":"2025-08-16T04:02:48","date_gmt":"2025-08-16T04:02:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jailingopinions.com\/realhistory\/?p=1555"},"modified":"2025-08-16T04:02:55","modified_gmt":"2025-08-16T04:02:55","slug":"real-history-podcast-2-how-mi5-deceived-britains-fascists","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jailingopinions.com\/realhistory\/real-history-podcast-2-how-mi5-deceived-britains-fascists\/","title":{"rendered":"Real History Podcast #2: How MI5 deceived Britain&#8217;s fascists"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"\">During the Second World War, MI5 created a fake &#8216;fifth column&#8217; of British national socialists \u2013 a counterpart to the far better known &#8216;double cross&#8217; operations that were designed to deceive German intelligence.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">In this podcast I discuss how Victor Rothschild led a top secret MI5 operation that included spying on one of Britain&#8217;s most senior diplomats. 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